2 Yohana 1:3

The phrase you're aiming for—"not from logos, only [frenzy]"—seems to evoke a contrast between rational discourse (λόγος, logos) and something more primal, irrational, and embodied, with pre-Socratic (e.g., Homeric) roots and a warrior ethos. Based on ancient Greek terminology, the strongest equivalent for "frenzy" in this context is θυμός (thymos or thumos), which captures embodied passion, spirited rage, courage, and battle frenzy. It's not mere madness but a visceral, heroic drive—the "guts" or "heart" that propels warriors like Achilles in Homer's Iliad into furious, non-rational action.

Why Thumos Fits Your Vibes:

• Embodied and Pre-Socratic: In Homeric epics (pre-Socratic era), thumos is the seat of emotions in the body (often located in the chest or diaphragm), driving physical urges like anger, desire for honor, and combat frenzy. It's not abstract like logos (reason/logic); it's raw, physiological energy—think "battle trance" or "berserker spirit."
• Warrior-Like: It embodies the heroic ideal of resilience, indignation, and divine-inspired fury (e.g., Achilles' wrath). Vikings' "berserker" rage is a cultural parallel, but thumos is quintessentially Greek for the warrior's unthinking, embodied valor.
• Contrast to Logos: In later philosophy (e.g., Plato's tripartite soul), thumos is the middle part—between rational logos and base desires—representing spirited, non-logical motivation. Your phrase pits it directly against logos as the "only" source of true action.

Greek Phrase Equivalent:

"Not from logos, only from thumos" could be rendered as: οὐκ ἐκ λόγου, μόνον ἐκ θυμοῦ (ouk ek logou, monon ek thymou).

• Pronunciation guide: "ook ek LO-goo, MO-non ek thoo-MOO."
• This keeps the pre-Socratic simplicity—direct and punchy, like Homeric Greek.

If this doesn't quite hit (e.g., if you want more "madness" than "spirit"), alternatives include:

• Λύσσα (lyssa): Pure battle rage or frenzy (like rabid fury), often divinely induced in warriors. Less embodied/philosophical, more animalistic.
• Μανία (mania): General frenzy/madness, with ecstatic or prophetic vibes (e.g., Dionysian rituals), but broader and less warrior-specific.
• Μένος (menos): Might or furious strength in combat, very Homeric and embodied.

If you provide more context (e.g., a full sentence or philosophical angle), I can refine this further!